The theft of the pears: evil loved for its own sake
The theft of the pears; Confessions II; gratuitous evil; the jealous infant
The human being is prone to evil by nature: the will can love evil for its own sake, without need or interest, and from infancy on.
He stole with no need and no pleasure in the fruit, and finds no good in it: he loved evil for itself, from infancy on.
"The theft of the pears: evil loved for its own sake" is an argument by Augustine of Hippo (Confessions I, 7 and II, 4-9 (c. 397-400), 400) on the question "Are humans good by nature?" (answer: prone to evil). Its claim: The human being is prone to evil by nature: the will can love evil for its own sake, without need or interest, and from infancy on. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P4, P7). AskPhilosophy presents 4 objections, 3 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
At sixteen, Augustine steals pears with a gang of young people. He is not hungry, he has better pears at home, and these are not even good: they eat a few and throw the rest to the pigs. Years later, in his Confessions, he asks himself why, and finds no motive. For him this episode reveals something about human beings in general: we can love evil for its own sake, and this bent already shows in the jealous infant. It is a particular version of the "prone to evil" camp: evil does not come from interest or need, but from a will that turns the wrong way. The P1 to P7 form is our reconstruction, from Confessions I, 7 and II, 4-9.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P4 (or without P7), the computer finds a case where the theft had neither need nor visible good, but had a hidden motive, for example the pleasure of belonging to the gang, or else where this bent is found in many without being human "nature": the conclusion no longer follows.
Objections
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Socrates (Plato's character) 385 BC · attacks premise 4Summary: in the Meno, Socrates gets Meno to admit that no one desires evil knowing it as such: whoever desires evil takes it for a good, or wants to be miserable, which no one wants. Applied to Augustine: he cannot have loved evil as such. He loved something he took to be good.
Augustin replies
Summary: in the Meno, Socrates gets Meno to admit that no one desires evil knowing it as such: whoever desires evil takes it for a good, or wants to be miserable, which no one wants. Applied to Augustine: he cannot have loved evil as such. He loved something he took to be good.
Rousseau 1755 · attacks premise 7Rousseau grants that people are wicked: a sad and continual experience spares the need for proof. But he holds that man is naturally good, and that he has been depraved by the changes in his constitution, the progress he has made and the knowledge he has acquired. A bent to evil therefore does not prove that evil is in nature: it may come from life in society.
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Rousseau grants that people are wicked: a sad and continual experience spares the need for proof. But he holds that man is naturally good, and that he has been depraved by the changes in his constitution, the progress he has made and the knowledge he has acquired. A bent to evil therefore does not prove that evil is in nature: it may come from life in society.
AAn objection drawn from the story itself attacks premise 5In his own account, Augustine writes that alone he would not have stolen the pears: he also loved the complicity of the gang, the laughter at tricking people who suspected nothing. The theft would therefore come from company and age (sixteen), not from a bad nature.
Augustin replies
In his own account, Augustine writes that alone he would not have stolen the pears: he also loved the complicity of the gang, the laughter at tricking people who suspected nothing. The theft would therefore come from company and age (sixteen), not from a bad nature.
Kant 1793 · attacks premise 5Summary: Kant grants that there is in man a universal propensity to evil, but he refuses to look for it in sensibility and natural inclinations. The propensity can lie only in freedom: only what is our own act can be called morally evil, and it must be imputable to us. Applied to Augustine's infant: a child's jealousy is a movement of sensibility, not yet moral evil.
Augustin replies
Summary: Kant grants that there is in man a universal propensity to evil, but he refuses to look for it in sensibility and natural inclinations. The propensity can lie only in freedom: only what is our own act can be called morally evil, and it must be imputable to us. Applied to Augustine's infant: a child's jealousy is a movement of sensibility, not yet moral evil.