A machine might utter words, but without knowing what it says
The two tests for telling a machine from a man
A machine with the shape of a man that imitated his actions would not be a real man: it would act without knowledge, and would not understand what it says.
A machine can utter words, but reason works in every situation while organs need a specific arrangement for each case.
"A machine might utter words, but without knowing what it says" is an argument by René Descartes (Discourse on Method, V, 1637) on the question "Can a machine think?" (answer: understanding is missing). Its claim: A machine with the shape of a man that imitated his actions would not be a real man: it would act without knowledge, and would not understand what it says. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P3). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 3 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
Descartes holds that the body of animals, and even the human body, works like a machine. He then asks a question we take up again today with robots and software: if an automaton had the shape of a man and imitated his actions, how could we know it is not a real man? He answers with two tests. The first is about speech: a machine might utter words, but not arrange them in endless ways to answer what is said to it. The second is about reason: it serves in every circumstance, whereas a mechanism is only ready for what it was set up to do. In both cases the machine would act by the arrangement of its organs, not by knowledge.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P3, the computer finds a case where the machine fails both tests and yet nothing says it lacks knowledge: a man shut in a room, unable to answer everything (he does not speak the language, he is exhausted), is not therefore an automaton. Failing alone does not prove that something is missing inside.
Objections
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La Mettrie 1747 · attacks premise 1The difference between man and animal is only one of degree. He defies anyone to name an experiment that makes it impossible to teach a well-trained ape to speak, as the deaf-born are taught: given how like ours its structure is, he has very little doubt it would succeed.
Descartes replies
The difference between man and animal is only one of degree. He defies anyone to name an experiment that makes it impossible to teach a well-trained ape to speak, as the deaf-born are taught: given how like ours its structure is, he has very little doubt it would succeed.
Alan Turing 1950 · attacks premise 1He replaces the question "can a machine think?" with a blind game of questions and answers. This game resembles the oral examination used to find out whether someone really understands or has only learnt "parrot fashion". If a machine answered as well as a candidate, Descartes's first test would be passed, and it would have to be judged on its answers.
a defender replies
He replaces the question "can a machine think?" with a blind game of questions and answers. This game resembles the oral examination used to find out whether someone really understands or has only learnt "parrot fashion". If a machine answered as well as a candidate, Descartes's first test would be passed, and it would have to be judged on its answers.
Alan Turing 1950 · attacks premise 2It is not necessary to build a different machine for each task. A single digital computer, programmed differently for each case, can do them all. Descartes supposed a particular organ would be needed for each action; a computer does not need this multiplicity of organs.
a defender replies
It is not necessary to build a different machine for each task. A single digital computer, programmed differently for each case, can do them all. Descartes supposed a particular organ would be needed for each action; a computer does not need this multiplicity of organs.