Without a limit set by society, desire has no end: anomie
Durkheim's anomie
Happiness depends on society's regulating power. When it breaks down, even toward greater ease, desires have no bound left, people suffer and kill themselves more readily.
We are happy only if our desires match our means, and the individual alone has nothing to set that measure.
"Without a limit set by society, desire has no end: anomie" is an argument by Émile Durkheim (Suicide, Book II, ch. V (1897), 1897) on the question "What is happiness?" (answer: a social matter). Its claim: Happiness depends on society's regulating power. When it breaks down, even toward greater ease, desires have no bound left, people suffer and kill themselves more readily. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P4). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 1 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
Durkheim asks why rich, booming societies have more suicides, not fewer. He rules out poverty: in Ireland or Calabria, where life is hard, few kill themselves; and in times of prosperity, suicides rise as they do in disasters. He sees another cause. An animal is satisfied when its body is filled. Man has no limit of that kind: his desires are bottomless. So an outside moral authority must tell him "this far and no further", and only society can play that role. When it breaks down, desire overflows: Durkheim calls this disorder anomie.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P4, the computer finds a case where someone is happy, needs match means, and the limit comes neither from the individual nor from society: for instance from chance, habit or an independent religious authority.
Objections
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EEpicurus 300 BC · attacks premise 2Natural and necessary desires are easily satisfied: whatever is natural is easily procured, and only the vain and worthless is hard to win. The individual can therefore set himself a limit alone, by sorting his desires with reason. Nothing requires an outside authority.
Durkheim replies
Natural and necessary desires are easily satisfied: whatever is natural is easily procured, and only the vain and worthless is hard to win. The individual can therefore set himself a limit alone, by sorting his desires with reason. Nothing requires an outside authority.
RRobert K. Merton 1938 · attacks premise 3Merton takes up the word "anomie" but changes its meaning. For him, the trouble does not come from a society that no longer regulates desires. It comes from a society that, on the contrary, sets the same goal for all (success, mostly material) without giving all the legitimate means to reach it. So the very structure of society produces the strain, not its absence.
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Merton takes up the word "anomie" but changes its meaning. For him, the trouble does not come from a society that no longer regulates desires. It comes from a society that, on the contrary, sets the same goal for all (success, mostly material) without giving all the legitimate means to reach it. So the very structure of society produces the strain, not its absence.
JJack D. Douglas 1967 · attacks premise 5Official suicide figures are the result of decisions: doctors, police and families decide whether a death is a suicide, and they do so differently across places and religions. Lower rates may reflect better-hidden deaths, not fewer suicides. Durkheim's correlations are therefore less solid than he believed.
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Official suicide figures are the result of decisions: doctors, police and families decide whether a death is a suicide, and they do so differently across places and religions. Lower rates may reflect better-hidden deaths, not fewer suicides. Durkheim's correlations are therefore less solid than he believed.