Learning how not to be good
A prince who wants to maintain himself must learn how not to be good, and use this or not according to necessity: not depart from the good if he can, but know how to enter into evil if compelled.
Whoever tries to be good in everything among men who are not will be ruined, and the state with him.
"Learning how not to be good" is an argument by Niccolò Machiavelli (The Prince, 15 and 18) on the question "What makes something right?" (answer: consequences). Its claim: A prince who wants to maintain himself must learn how not to be good, and use this or not according to necessity: not depart from the good if he can, but know how to enter into evil if compelled. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P3). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 1 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
Machiavelli announces that he will depart from the authors before him: he wants to follow the "effective truth" of things, not the picture people make of them. His thesis is not that evil is good. It is that a prince who wants to keep the State must know how to do evil when compelled, without departing from the good when he can.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P3, the computer finds a case where people are not good and goodness in everything leads to ruin, but the prince is not bound to learn evil: it is enough that he prefers to stay just, even at the cost of losing power.
Objections
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Objection anticipated by Machiavelli attacks premise 2Everyone understands how praiseworthy it is for a prince to keep his word and live with integrity, without craft.
Machiavel replies
Everyone understands how praiseworthy it is for a prince to keep his word and live with integrity, without craft.
AAugustine 415 · attacks premise 3Justice taken away, what are kingdoms but great robberies? A State that maintains itself only by giving up justice does not deserve to be maintained: it differs from a band of pirates only in size.
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Justice taken away, what are kingdoms but great robberies? A State that maintains itself only by giving up justice does not deserve to be maintained: it differs from a band of pirates only in size.
Kant 1795 · attacks premise 4In Perpetual Peace (Appendix I), Kant contrasts the moral politician, who subordinates politics to right, with the political moralist, who fashions a morality to suit the interests of power. The "necessity" invoked is usually a pretext: politics must bow before right, never the reverse.
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In Perpetual Peace (Appendix I), Kant contrasts the moral politician, who subordinates politics to right, with the political moralist, who fashions a morality to suit the interests of power. The "necessity" invoked is usually a pretext: politics must bow before right, never the reverse.