"The greatest weight": would you want to live your life again?
The eternal recurrence, amor fati (Nietzsche)
Meaning is not given: it is created, by saying yes to one's life as it is (amor fati), to the point of being able to want its return. One must live so as to want this return.
A meaning we create is worth something only if it survives living our life again exactly: we curse it, or love it enough to want it back.
""The greatest weight": would you want to live your life again?" is an argument by Friedrich Nietzsche (The Gay Science, §341 and §276 (1882); Thus Spoke Zarathustra (1883-1885)) on the question "Does life have a meaning?" (answer: a meaning to create). Its claim: Meaning is not given: it is created, by saying yes to one's life as it is (amor fati), to the point of being able to want its return. One must live so as to want this return. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P3). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 1 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
A demon tells you: this life, exactly as you have lived it, with every pain and every joy, you will have to live again an endless number of times. Would you throw yourself down and curse him, or answer: "You are a god"? For Nietzsche, no meaning is given to us from above: man is the one who puts values into things. The real question is therefore whether your own meaning holds up against this test. One must live so as to be able to want the return of one's life: this is amor fati, the love of what is necessary. Nietzsche knows the test can crush: his Zarathustra himself is seized by disgust at the thought of the return. People still debate whether the recurrence is a claim about the world or only a thought experiment.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P3, the computer finds a world where no meaning is given, where someone wants the return of their life, and yet that life has no meaning: the yes is then only a passing feeling.
Objections
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Schopenhauer 1819 · attacks premise 2Schopenhauer answers the demon's question in advance: near the end of his life, a man who is both thoughtful and sincere would perhaps not wish to live it again, and would much rather prefer nothingness. For him every life is a series of great and small misfortunes. If that is true, the great majority would curse the demon, and the meaning Nietzsche wants to create would rest on a yes that almost nobody can honestly say.
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Schopenhauer answers the demon's question in advance: near the end of his life, a man who is both thoughtful and sincere would perhaps not wish to live it again, and would much rather prefer nothingness. For him every life is a series of great and small misfortunes. If that is true, the great majority would curse the demon, and the meaning Nietzsche wants to create would rest on a yes that almost nobody can honestly say.
Albert Camus, The Myth of Sisyphus 1942 · attacks premise 3Camus goes as far as Nietzsche in the yes, but he refuses the word "meaning". He writes that life "will be lived all the better if it has no meaning". For him Sisyphus's yes creates nothing: it is the lucidity of someone who looks at his rock without hope and does not turn away. Calling this yes a "meaning" is taking back with one hand what was removed with the other.
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Camus goes as far as Nietzsche in the yes, but he refuses the word "meaning". He writes that life "will be lived all the better if it has no meaning". For him Sisyphus's yes creates nothing: it is the lucidity of someone who looks at his rock without hope and does not turn away. Calling this yes a "meaning" is taking back with one hand what was removed with the other.
RR. Lanier Anderson (summary of the cosmological reading) 2017 · attacks premise 2Is the recurrence a thought experiment or a claim about the world? According to the Stanford Encyclopedia, the early readers saw it mostly as a cosmological hypothesis about the structure of time or fate, whereas many recent readers see it as a practical test of whether one has lived well. If the recurrence is a fact, the argument changes: the question is no longer what one would want, but how to be reconciled with what returns anyway.
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Is the recurrence a thought experiment or a claim about the world? According to the Stanford Encyclopedia, the early readers saw it mostly as a cosmological hypothesis about the structure of time or fate, whereas many recent readers see it as a practical test of whether one has lived well. If the recurrence is a fact, the argument changes: the question is no longer what one would want, but how to be reconciled with what returns anyway.