Reason is a correct scale, but mountains cannot be weighed on it
The refutation of philosophy
The philosophers' metaphysics can give neither certainty about what lies beyond the senses, nor the happiness it promises. Reason is a correct scale, but it must not be used to weigh God's oneness or the other world.
Our ideas come from what the senses perceive, so reason cannot establish anything certain about what lies beyond the senses.
"Reason is a correct scale, but mountains cannot be weighed on it" is an argument by Ibn Khaldun (Muqaddima, I, 6, 30 ("A refutation of philosophy") and I, 6, 14) on the question "Can we be certain of anything?" (answer: what escapes words). Its claim: The philosophers' metaphysics can give neither certainty about what lies beyond the senses, nor the happiness it promises. Reason is a correct scale, but it must not be used to weigh God's oneness or the other world. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P3). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 2 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
The philosophers of Islam, such as al-Farabi and Avicenna, disciples of Aristotle, thought reason can know everything, God and the soul included, and that supreme happiness is that knowledge. Ibn Khaldun, who had read their books closely, answers that our ideas come from what the senses perceive: about what lies beyond the senses, reason provides only conjectures. He does not reject reason for all that: it is "a correct scale", but a scale for gold, which cannot weigh mountains. He even keeps logic, which sharpens the mind. Four centuries later, Kant too would set limits to metaphysics, for other reasons.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P3, the computer finds a case where our ideas come from the senses, where spiritual beings are not perceived, and where reason can nonetheless demonstrate something about them by another path, for example by reasoning about what "to exist" means.
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Avicenna 1030 · attacks premise 3Reason does not need to abstract ideas from spiritual beings in order to know them. It is enough to start from the fact that something exists: whatever could fail to exist owes its existence to something else, and one necessarily goes back to a being that exists by itself. This is the "way of the truthful", which takes God as witness of everything, instead of going through creatures.
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Reason does not need to abstract ideas from spiritual beings in order to know them. It is enough to start from the fact that something exists: whatever could fail to exist owes its existence to something else, and one necessarily goes back to a being that exists by itself. This is the "way of the truthful", which takes God as witness of everything, instead of going through creatures.
Averroes 1179 · attacks the conclusionReligious law itself commands us to reflect on beings in order to know their Creator. The study of the books of the Ancients is therefore obligatory for those capable of it, and demonstration cannot contradict revelation, for truth does not oppose truth. Forbidding philosophy to capable minds is closing the door through which the law calls them to know God.
Ibn Khaldoun replies
Religious law itself commands us to reflect on beings in order to know their Creator. The study of the books of the Ancients is therefore obligatory for those capable of it, and demonstration cannot contradict revelation, for truth does not oppose truth. Forbidding philosophy to capable minds is closing the door through which the law calls them to know God.
MModern readers attacks the conclusionHe contradicts himself. When he judges history, he boasts of a "demonstrative method that admits of no doubts". Why would reason be sure when judging the past, and powerless when judging God? He leans on reason when it serves him, and on faith when it gets in his way.
Ibn Khaldoun replies
He contradicts himself. When he judges history, he boasts of a "demonstrative method that admits of no doubts". Why would reason be sure when judging the past, and powerless when judging God? He leans on reason when it serves him, and on faith when it gets in his way.