The natural loves are good but not self-sufficient: they are meant to be raised
The four loves: affection, friendship, eros, charity; Need-love and Gift-love
Love is an ascent: the natural loves, good but incomplete, reach their true form when raised into divine love.
The natural loves are real goods, but they go bad when made absolute: they need to be raised by the love of God.
"The natural loves are good but not self-sufficient: they are meant to be raised" is an argument by C. S. Lewis (The Four Loves, 1960, 1960) on the question "What is love?" (answer: an ascent to beauty). Its claim: Love is an ascent: the natural loves, good but incomplete, reach their true form when raised into divine love. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P4). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 0 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
Should we despise love that comes from our needs, or treat it as the end of everything? Lewis refuses both. The natural loves, family affection, friendship, love between a man and a woman, are real goods. But each, when made a god, can turn into excess, jealousy, tyranny. They are not self-sufficient. What keeps them good is charity, love as God has it for us. It does not destroy them: it puts them in their place and raises them. Love is therefore an ascent: from a natural need to a gift that goes beyond it.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P4, the computer finds a world where natural loves are good and fragile, charity exists, but it remains foreign to them without raising them. The other premises are true, the conclusion is false.
Objections
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AAnders Nygren 1930 · attacks premise 4For the theologian Nygren, Eros and Agape are opposed: eros is the human love that climbs towards what it desires, agape is the love that comes from God, without motive or merit. Making one climb up to the other mixes two loves that, for him, Christianity holds apart.
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For the theologian Nygren, Eros and Agape are opposed: eros is the human love that climbs towards what it desires, agape is the love that comes from God, without motive or merit. Making one climb up to the other mixes two loves that, for him, Christianity holds apart.
Sigmund Freud 1930 · attacks premise 3For Freud, culture drives men to aim-inhibited love relationships and to the ideal of loving one's neighbour as oneself, which is justified by the fact that nothing runs so much against original human nature. This raised love is a demand of civilisation, not a gift of God.
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For Freud, culture drives men to aim-inhibited love relationships and to the ideal of loving one's neighbour as oneself, which is justified by the fact that nothing runs so much against original human nature. This raised love is a demand of civilisation, not a gift of God.
EErich Fromm 1956 · attacks premise 3For Fromm, in The Art of Loving, loving is an art learned through practice: it requires discipline, concentration and patience. Love is an activity, and primarily giving, not receiving. Mature love is therefore the fruit of the person's own work on herself, with no need of a love from above to raise it.
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For Fromm, in The Art of Loving, loving is an art learned through practice: it requires discipline, concentration and patience. Love is an activity, and primarily giving, not receiving. Mature love is therefore the fruit of the person's own work on herself, with no need of a love from above to raise it.