There is an absolute time that flows by itself, and our clocks only measure it approximately
Newton's absolute time
There exists an absolute, true and mathematical time which, of itself and from its own nature, flows uniformly without relation to anything external, and which is also called duration.
No motion measures time exactly, yet the duration of things stays the same: so there must be a true time behind our clocks.
"There is an absolute time that flows by itself, and our clocks only measure it approximately" is an argument by Isaac Newton (Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy (Principia), 1687, scholium to the definitions, 1687) on the question "Does time really exist?" (answer: time really passes). Its claim: There exists an absolute, true and mathematical time which, of itself and from its own nature, flows uniformly without relation to anything external, and which is also called duration. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P5). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 2 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
A clock can run fast or slow. How do we know? Because we compare it with another clock, or with the motion of the stars. But those motions can vary a little too. Newton draws a bold conclusion: for astronomers' corrections to make sense, there must be a true time that depends on no motion, which all motions measure more or less well. All the mechanics of the Principia rests on this idea.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P5, one could accept everything else and say: when we correct a clock we simply compare it with a better clock, and so on, never reaching a pure time. Corrections would then be mere conventions that become more and more precise. This is exactly what Leibniz and Mach will say.
Objections
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Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz 1716 · attacks the conclusionLeibniz holds that time is only the order of successions, as space is the order of coexistences. If time were something over and above things, nothing could explain why God placed things at one instant rather than a year earlier. But this shows that instants, taken without the things, are nothing.
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Leibniz holds that time is only the order of successions, as space is the order of coexistences. If time were something over and above things, nothing could explain why God placed things at one instant rather than a year earlier. But this shows that instants, taken without the things, are nothing.
Albert Einstein 1905 · attacks the conclusionEinstein shows that two events that are simultaneous for one observer are not necessarily so for another who moves relative to the first. Simultaneity depends on the observer: so there is no single, universal time flowing in the same way everywhere, as Newton wanted.
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Einstein shows that two events that are simultaneous for one observer are not necessarily so for another who moves relative to the first. Simultaneity depends on the observer: so there is no single, universal time flowing in the same way everywhere, as Newton wanted.
EErnst Mach 1883 · attacks premise 5Mach judges that speaking of an absolute time, independent of change, makes no sense: this time can be measured by comparison with no motion, so it has no practical or scientific value, and no one is entitled to say that he knows anything about it. Time is an abstraction we draw from the changes of things.
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Mach judges that speaking of an absolute time, independent of change, makes no sense: this time can be measured by comparison with no motion, so it has no practical or scientific value, and no one is entitled to say that he knows anything about it. Time is an abstraction we draw from the changes of things.