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The historical refutation

Friedrich Nietzsche 1844 · 1900God is dead: new values must be created.
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What it claims

There is no longer any reason to believe in God: the atheist no longer even needs a counterproof.

Why

If the proofs of God have failed and the belief can be explained without God existing, there is no longer a reason to hold it.

In short

"The historical refutation" is an argument by Friedrich Nietzsche (Daybreak, 95) on the question "Does God exist?" (answer: atheism). Its claim: There is no longer any reason to believe in God: the atheist no longer even needs a counterproof. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P3). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 0 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.

Daybreak, 95
Valid with an implicit premise

Nietzsche does not try to prove that God does not exist. He changes method: explain how belief in God arose and why it gained so much weight. If that history explains everything, the belief has nothing left to stand on.

P1The classical proofs of God's existence have been refuted.
P2One can explain how belief in God arose and gained importance without assuming that God exists.
P3 · implicit premiseA belief that no longer has any proof, and whose origin is fully explained without its being true, no longer has any reason to be held.
Therefore there is no longer any reason to believe in God: the atheist no longer even needs a counterproof.

click a premise to reject it

If you accept every premise, logic forces you to accept the conclusion. So the debate is about the premises.
Checked by a logic solver: the premises cannot all be true while the conclusion is false.
Without the implicit premise: Without P3, the computer finds a case where the proofs are refuted and the history of the belief is known, yet a reason to believe remains (an experience, a testimony, a new argument).
Valid with P3. Note what the conclusion actually says: not "God does not exist" but "there is no longer any reason to believe in him". The debate is about P1 (are the proofs really refuted?) and P3 (does the origin of a belief say anything about its truth?).
Analogy. A child believes in Father Christmas. No one ever proved he does not exist: we show the child who puts the presents under the tree. The explanation is enough, the belief falls. The believer will answer: God is not Father Christmas, and knowing why I believe does not show I am wrong.

Objections

3

Each objection is a conversation: click to see who replies and where the debate stands.

The genetic fallacy (Nietzsche himself, about morality) 1887 · attacks premise 3

Saying where a belief comes from does not say whether it is true: one can believe something true for bad reasons. Nietzsche writes it himself of morality in The Gay Science: born of an error, its worth would still be an open question.

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We have not yet found a direct reply by Nietzsche in the texts.
New proofs (Plantinga, Swinburne) 1974 · attacks premise 1

Not all the proofs have been refuted: new versions (the modal ontological argument, the cumulative probabilistic case) are defended by leading philosophers. P1 is therefore disputed.

no reply
summary: their text is not yet in our corpus
No reply possible: objection raised in 1974, after the author's death (1900).
C. S. Lewis ("Bulverism") 1941 · attacks premise 3

The weapon cuts both ways: one can also tell where atheism comes from (revolt, the wish for autonomy). If origin were enough to discredit a belief, it would discredit both sides. One must first show that a claim is false before explaining why people get it wrong.

no reply
summary: their text is not yet in our corpus
No reply possible: objection raised in 1941, after the author's death (1900).