None of the five aggregates is a "self"
The not-self discourse (anatta)
None of the five aggregates is a self: "this is not mine, I am not this, this is not my self".
What keeps changing and does not obey us cannot be our "self": and the body, feelings and consciousness are like that.
"None of the five aggregates is a "self"" is an argument by Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha) (Anattalakkhana Sutta, Samyutta Nikaya 22.59, 450 BC) on the question "Who am I, really?" (answer: no fixed self). Its claim: None of the five aggregates is a self: "this is not mine, I am not this, this is not my self". According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P1, P4). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 1 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
The Buddha speaks to his first five companions. He lists what makes up a person: the body, feelings, perceptions, dispositions ("choices") and consciousness. For each, he asks two questions: is it permanent? Does it obey us? If what we call "self" were one of these, we could command it: "may my body be like this, not like that". But we cannot: these elements age, fall ill and change against our will. And what is impermanent and a source of suffering does not deserve to be called "this is me". The text does not say that the person does not exist; it says that none of these elements is a self. It is a text of the Pali canon, written down centuries after the Buddha to whom tradition attributes it.
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Objections
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TThe Pudgalavadins (Vatsiputriya school) 250 BC · attacks premise 1This early Buddhist school thinks the text does not say everything: one must admit a "person" (pudgala), neither identical to the five aggregates nor wholly other. Without it, they ask, who carries the fruit of actions and who is reborn? For them, the five aggregates are not the whole person.
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This early Buddhist school thinks the text does not say everything: one must admit a "person" (pudgala), neither identical to the five aggregates nor wholly other. Without it, they ask, who carries the fruit of actions and who is reborn? For them, the five aggregates are not the whole person.
NNyaya (Gautama, Nyaya Sutra, III.1) 150 · attacks the conclusionThe Nyaya logicians, starting from the Nyaya Sutra, hold that there is a self distinct from the body, the senses and the mind, of which cognition is a quality: we remember what we saw, we recognize an object seen before, and this requires one same subject that keeps the trace. What changes could not link yesterday and today.
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The Nyaya logicians, starting from the Nyaya Sutra, hold that there is a self distinct from the body, the senses and the mind, of which cognition is a quality: we remember what we saw, we recognize an object seen before, and this requires one same subject that keeps the trace. What changes could not link yesterday and today.
TThanissaro Bhikkhu (The Not-self Strategy) 2013 · attacks the conclusionThis American monk and translator reads the discourse differently: the Buddha always refused to say whether there is or is not a self. "Not-self" is a strategy: do not identify with what changes, in order to let go. Reading the discourse as "no self exists" would go further than he did.
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This American monk and translator reads the discourse differently: the Buddha always refused to say whether there is or is not a self. "Not-self" is a strategy: do not identify with what changes, in order to let go. Reading the discourse as "no self exists" would go further than he did.