The ontological proof
God exists.
I clearly conceive that existence belongs to the perfect being, and what belongs to a thing's nature truly belongs to it.
"The ontological proof" is an argument by René Descartes (Meditation V) on the question "Does God exist?" (answer: theism). Its claim: God exists. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P3). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 3 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
Second proof of God, without going through the world or causality: the mere idea of a perfect being would be enough.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P3, the computer finds a possible world where existence is part of the idea of God, but God does not exist outside thought.
Objections
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CCaterus 1641 · attacks premise 3Even if the concept of a perfect being contains existence, it only follows that the two ideas are linked in our mind, not that this being exists in nature.
Descartes replies
Even if the concept of a perfect being contains existence, it only follows that the two ideas are linked in our mind, not that this being exists in nature.
Gassendi 1641 · attacks premise 2Existence is not one perfection among others: it is what any perfection requires. Putting it in the list of God's perfections assumes what must be proved.
Descartes replies
Existence is not one perfection among others: it is what any perfection requires. Putting it in the list of God's perfections assumes what must be proved.
Kant 1781 · attacks premise 2"Being" is not a real predicate: saying a thing exists adds nothing to its concept. A hundred real thalers contain not a cent more than a hundred imagined ones.
Descartes replies
"Being" is not a real predicate: saying a thing exists adds nothing to its concept. A hundred real thalers contain not a cent more than a hundred imagined ones.