That than which nothing greater can be conceived exists
The ontological argument (Anselm)
That than which nothing greater can be conceived exists, in the mind and also in reality: God exists.
A being than which nothing greater can be conceived, if it existed only in the mind, could be thought greater by also existing.
"That than which nothing greater can be conceived exists" is an argument by Anselme de Cantorbéry (Proslogion, chapters II and III (1077-1078), 1078) on the question "Does God exist?" (answer: theism). Its claim: That than which nothing greater can be conceived exists, in the mind and also in reality: God exists. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P4). AskPhilosophy presents 5 objections, 4 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
Around 1077 Anselm, a monk at the abbey of Bec in Normandy, looks for "a single argument" that would be enough to prove that God exists. He finds it in the mere definition of God: "something than which nothing greater can be conceived". Even someone who says "there is no God" (the "fool" of the Psalm) understands these words. Yet if this being existed only in thought, one could conceive a greater one: the same being, but real. That is a contradiction. So it exists in reality as well. No observation of the world is needed: everything happens in thought. Kant would later call this reasoning the "ontological" proof.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P4, the computer finds a world where the idea of the greatest conceivable being is incoherent: nothing then prevents one from always conceiving something greater, and this being remains only in the mind, without contradiction. It is like "the greatest whole number": we understand the words, but we can always add 1.
Objections
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GGaunilo, monk of Marmoutier 1078 · attacks premise 2I do not have this being in my mind the way I have the things I know. I do not know the reality that God is, and I cannot form an idea of it from something similar, since nothing is like it. All I have in mind are words, as with a false or invented thing.
Cantorbéry replies
I do not have this being in my mind the way I have the things I know. I do not know the reality that God is, and I cannot form an idea of it from something similar, since nothing is like it. All I have in mind are words, as with a false or invented thing.
GGaunilo (the lost island) 1078 · attacks premise 3They say that somewhere in the ocean there is an island, richer than all inhabited lands, called "the lost island" because it cannot be found. I understand these words. If someone concluded that it must exist, since a real island is greater than one that is only thought of, I would take it as a joke. The same reasoning would prove anything perfect: so it is worthless.
Cantorbéry replies
They say that somewhere in the ocean there is an island, richer than all inhabited lands, called "the lost island" because it cannot be found. I understand these words. If someone concluded that it must exist, since a real island is greater than one that is only thought of, I would take it as a joke. The same reasoning would prove anything perfect: so it is worthless.
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Thomas Aquinas 1268 · attacks premise 3Even if everyone understands that the word "God" means "that than which nothing greater can be conceived", it only follows that this being is in the mind, not in reality. To conclude that it is real, one would first have to grant that such a being really exists, which is exactly what the one who denies God refuses. Thomas does not conclude that God does not exist: since we do not know God's essence, he must be proved from his effects, from the world (Thomas's "five ways").
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Even if everyone understands that the word "God" means "that than which nothing greater can be conceived", it only follows that this being is in the mind, not in reality. To conclude that it is real, one would first have to grant that such a being really exists, which is exactly what the one who denies God refuses. Thomas does not conclude that God does not exist: since we do not know God's essence, he must be proved from his effects, from the world (Thomas's "five ways").
Kant 1781 · attacks premise 3"Existing" is not a quality that is added to a thing and makes it greater. A hundred real thalers contain nothing more than a hundred possible ones. Saying that a real being is "greater" than the same being merely thought of treats existence as one more perfection: that is the mistake of every ontological proof.
a defender replies
"Existing" is not a quality that is added to a thing and makes it greater. A hundred real thalers contain nothing more than a hundred possible ones. Saying that a real being is "greater" than the same being merely thought of treats existence as one more perfection: that is the mistake of every ontological proof.
Leibniz (the missing premise) 1714 · attacks premise 4The proof holds only if God is possible: only the necessary being has the privilege that it must exist if it is possible. So one must first show that its idea is not contradictory. Leibniz said this about Descartes, but it applies to Anselm. He himself thinks he can fill the gap: what has no limits and no negation cannot contain a contradiction.
a defender replies
The proof holds only if God is possible: only the necessary being has the privilege that it must exist if it is possible. So one must first show that its idea is not contradictory. Leibniz said this about Descartes, but it applies to Anselm. He himself thinks he can fill the gap: what has no limits and no negation cannot contain a contradiction.