Love is the desire for beauty, and it rests only in God
Ficino's Platonic love; the desire for beauty
To love is therefore to climb: from the beauty of bodies to that of the soul, then of angels, up to the beauty of God, where alone the desire for beauty finds its rest.
To love is to desire beauty; a body's beauty comes from a higher beauty, infinite in God, which alone quiets desire.
"Love is the desire for beauty, and it rests only in God" is an argument by Marsile Ficin (Commentary on Plato's Symposium, De amore, 1469, 1469) on the question "What is love?" (answer: an ascent to beauty). Its claim: To love is therefore to climb: from the beauty of bodies to that of the soul, then of angels, up to the beauty of God, where alone the desire for beauty finds its rest. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P5). AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 1 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
In Florence, Marsilio Ficino comments on Plato's Symposium for his friends. His definition is simple: to love is to desire beauty. But beauty is perceived only by the mind, the eyes and the ears: true love is therefore not bodily passion, which he calls frenzy. And the beauty of a body is not first beauty, since it changes and is mixed with ugliness. It comes from a higher beauty, that of the soul, then of angels, finally of God, which has no limit. Love therefore climbs from step to step, and desire is quieted only in God.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P5, the computer finds a world where God's beauty is infinite but desire stops at a beloved person, without climbing. The other premises are true, the conclusion is false.
Objections
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Gregory Vlastos 1973 · attacks premise 5For Vlastos, in Platonic love, what is loved is not the unique person but the beauty she carries. Persons are successive occasions of the same beauty and are left behind, like the rungs of a ladder. For him, Plato does not speak of loving a person for her own sake.
Ficin replies
For Vlastos, in Platonic love, what is loved is not the unique person but the beauty she carries. Persons are successive occasions of the same beauty and are left behind, like the rungs of a ladder. For him, Plato does not speak of loving a person for her own sake.
Søren Kierkegaard 1847 · attacks premise 1For Kierkegaard, love that picks one being because it finds him beautiful remains a form of self-love: the passionate partiality of love closes around this one beloved as selfishly as self-love closes around this one self. True love is a duty to love every human being, whoever he is.
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For Kierkegaard, love that picks one being because it finds him beautiful remains a form of self-love: the passionate partiality of love closes around this one beloved as selfishly as self-love closes around this one self. True love is a duty to love every human being, whoever he is.
Thomas Aquinas 1271 · attacks premise 1For Thomas, what is loved with the love of friendship is loved simply and for itself; what is loved with the love of concupiscence is loved for something else. Defining love as the desire to enjoy beauty describes concupiscence, which is not love in the full sense, since it aims at a good for oneself rather than someone's good.
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For Thomas, what is loved with the love of friendship is loved simply and for itself; what is loved with the love of concupiscence is loved for something else. Defining love as the desire to enjoy beauty describes concupiscence, which is not love in the full sense, since it aims at a good for oneself rather than someone's good.