The fetishism of commodities
In the world of commodities, a social relation between people takes on for them the fantastic form of a relation between things: this is fetishism, comparable to religion, where the products of the human brain seem to live a life of their own.
By exchanging products, people link their labor without knowing it, and this looks to them like a property of things.
"The fetishism of commodities" is an argument by Karl Marx (Capital, Volume I, ch. 1, § 4 (1867, revised 1872)) on the question "Can we be certain of anything?" (answer: we must doubt). Its claim: In the world of commodities, a social relation between people takes on for them the fantastic form of a relation between things: this is fetishism, comparable to religion, where the products of the human brain seem to live a life of their own. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the argument is valid only if one grants a premise the author leaves unstated (P4). AskPhilosophy presents 2 objections, 1 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
A phone is "worth" 800 euros: it looks as if that price were a property of the object, like its weight. Marx argues it is a social optical illusion: behind the price there are relations between people who, without knowing it, work for one another. And the strangest part: knowing this does not make the illusion go away.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P4, the computer finds a case where value is not physical, expresses a social relation and appears as a property of things, without this being an error: just a useful convention, like a note written on a score.
Objections
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EEugen von Böhm-Bawerk (and the marginalist school) 1896 · attacks premise 2Value does not come from labour, but from the usefulness and scarcity of things as people judge them (Menger and Jevons, 1871). A rare wine, a pearl found by chance are worth a lot without much labour. If value does not express quantities of labour, the "social relation" hidden behind prices is not demonstrated.
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Value does not come from labour, but from the usefulness and scarcity of things as people judge them (Menger and Jevons, 1871). A rare wine, a pearl found by chance are worth a lot without much labour. If value does not express quantities of labour, the "social relation" hidden behind prices is not demonstrated.
Friedrich Hayek, "The Use of Knowledge in Society" 1945 · attacks premise 4Prices are not an illusion: they sum up in a single number information scattered among millions of people. Not seeing the human relations behind a price is not an error, it is what makes it possible to coordinate a society too vast for anyone to know as a whole.
Marx replies
Prices are not an illusion: they sum up in a single number information scattered among millions of people. Not seeing the human relations behind a price is not an error, it is what makes it possible to coordinate a society too vast for anyone to know as a whole.