Physical science left the mind out: it cannot explain everything
Mind and Cosmos (Nagel)
The current physical conception of nature is incomplete, even as a theory of the physical world, and a complete view will have to include consciousness, reason and values.
Physics was built by setting the mind aside; yet consciousness exists, so its picture of the world is incomplete.
"Physical science left the mind out: it cannot explain everything" is an argument by Thomas Nagel (The View from Nowhere, 1986; Mind and Cosmos, 2012, 1974) on the question "Can science explain everything?" (answer: true, but not everything). Its claim: The current physical conception of nature is incomplete, even as a theory of the physical world, and a complete view will have to include consciousness, reason and values. According to AskPhilosophy's logic check (Z3 solver), the conclusion does follow from its 3 premises. AskPhilosophy presents 3 objections, 1 of them with a documented reply, and the original text behind each premise, checked word for word.
Since Galileo, physical science has succeeded by leaving aside what depends on a point of view: colours as we see them, sensations, intentions. It describes a world of masses, forces and distances. Thomas Nagel notes that this choice was a method, not a discovery: it put the mind in brackets to describe the rest better. It would then be surprising if it could explain what it had set aside from the start. In Mind and Cosmos (2012) he concludes that consciousness, rational thought and values are not details that the evolution of bodies will one day explain: a complete view of the world must make room for them, and science may have to change form. Nagel does not propose replacing science with religion or denying present science: he looks for a wider explanation of nature. His book has been much discussed, and often criticised.
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Without the implicit premise: Without P4, one could accept P1 to P3 and say that physical science is complete for what it sets out to explain: the rest would be a matter for another description (psychology, philosophy), without nature being "incomplete".
Objections
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Daniel Dennett 1988 · attacks premise 2What Nagel thinks science leaves out, a private and indescribable "what it is like", is a confused notion. Dennett thinks one should not say "we will explain these qualia" but ask "what qualia?". In his view there is nothing more to explain than what we can discriminate, say and do, and science can study that.
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What Nagel thinks science leaves out, a private and indescribable "what it is like", is a confused notion. Dennett thinks one should not say "we will explain these qualia" but ask "what qualia?". In his view there is nothing more to explain than what we can discriminate, say and do, and science can study that.
HH. Allen Orr 2013 · attacks premise 2Orr, a biologist, judges that Nagel goes from his incredulity ("this seems highly implausible") to the conclusion that Darwinism is false or incomplete, without a real argument. Many scientific truths are counterintuitive, and a scientific education consists in part in distrusting one's intuitions. Orr adds that Nagel is wrong on several points of biology (origin of life, mutations).
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Orr, a biologist, judges that Nagel goes from his incredulity ("this seems highly implausible") to the conclusion that Darwinism is false or incomplete, without a real argument. Many scientific truths are counterintuitive, and a scientific education consists in part in distrusting one's intuitions. Orr adds that Nagel is wrong on several points of biology (origin of life, mutations).
Alex Rosenberg 2011 · attacks premise 3Rosenberg holds the opposite position: physics, with its laws, says all there is in the world, and what we call "mind", "purpose" or "value" is a useful illusion. He calls this position scientism. For him Nagel's mistake is to take seriously facts (consciousness, values) that science shows to be appearances.
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Rosenberg holds the opposite position: physics, with its laws, says all there is in the world, and what we call "mind", "purpose" or "value" is a useful illusion. He calls this position scientism. For him Nagel's mistake is to take seriously facts (consciousness, values) that science shows to be appearances.