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David Chalmers

Named the 'hard problem' of consciousness; argues virtual worlds are real.

PhilosopherWriterborn 1966 Australia

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In 30 secondsChalmers is an Australian philosopher at New York University. He thinks consciousness cannot be fully explained by physics alone, so he defends a form of property dualism and takes panpsychism seriously. He is sympathetic to compatibilism about free will and calls himself an atheist. He argues that a simulated world would still be real, and that future AI systems could become serious candidates for consciousness.
Key facts

Positions

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Does God exist?God
AtheismTheism
Stated explicitly
Position

In Reality+ (2022) he writes that he considers himself an atheist, and that even an all-powerful simulator-creator would not be a god because no being is worthy of worship.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O
Objection

If a being created our simulated world, wouldn't that being be God?

Chalmers

He says no: even a simulator would not be a god for him, since no being is worthy of worship, and he still calls himself an atheist.

Can we reach certain truths?Certainty
SkepticismCertainty attainable
Interpretation
Position

In Reality+ he accepts that we might be in a simulation but rejects the step from there to "nothing is real": the objects in such sceptical scenarios are real, which makes scepticism harder to get started, and we can at least know the structure of reality.

Is the mind more than matter?Mind and body
MaterialismDualism
Stated explicitly
Position

His 1996 book argues for property dualism: consciousness is a fundamental property not reducible to physical ones. He is neutral on substance dualism and has some sympathy for panpsychism, which he sees as an alternative to it.

1996 The Conscious Mind argues that zombies are conceivable, so consciousness is not explained by physical facts alone. Wikipédia 2025 · David Chalmers

2013 Says his views have developed rather than changed: he is now more open to interactionism and less sympathetic to epiphenomenalism. He is slightly more pessimistic about the 'combination problem' of panpsychism. Article 2013 · On the Problem of Consciousness…

Why
What is objected, and the reply

Consciousness is an illusion: we only think we have a hard problem to explain.

Chalmers

He calls illusionism a respectable program and proposes the meta-problem (why we think we are conscious), but says consciousness is the first datum to explain.

O

Neuroscience will explain consciousness away, as science explained away other old ideas.

Chalmers

He answers that there is a core of agreed phenomena (blindsight, neural correlates) and the beginnings of a science, and that splitting consciousness into parts does not make the hard problem go away.

Defends : The hard problem of consciousness and zombies, Mary, the scientist who has never seen red

Are we truly free?Freedom
Determinism (no free will)Free will
Stated explicitly
Position

In a 2019 interview he says he is sympathetic to compatibilism: moral responsibility can make sense even in a deterministic universe.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

Our brain acts before we are aware of it, so conscious choice cannot be what makes us responsible.

Chalmers

He says consciousness need not play a direct role in every moment: some very well-practised, automatic actions, where the role of consciousness is unclear, can still carry moral responsibility.

O

If every act is the result of earlier causes, nobody is truly responsible.

No known reply from them.
Do good and evil exist objectively?Status of morality
Anti-realism (morality is human-made)Moral realism (objective moral truths)
Interpretation
Position

On objective morality he goes back and forth. Consciousness may carry some objective value (pain is bad), while much value comes from our own acts of valuing.

Does life have a given meaning?Meaning of life
No given meaning (absurd, to be created)Objective meaning (nature, God, the Good)
Interpretation
Position

Asked about the meaning of life, he says it is where we find it: conscious creatures can invest the world with meaning, in physical and digital worlds alike. He also says consciousness is at least part of the ground of all value.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O
Objection

If we live in a simulation, our lives are fake and do not really matter.

Chalmers

He argues that even in a simulation the world and our lives are still real and still matter.

No sourced position yet on: Source of knowledge, Faith and reason, Human nature.

On the big questions

Does God exist?Atheism

Calls himself an atheist in Reality+.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O
Objection

If a being created our simulated world, wouldn't that being be God?

Chalmers

He says no: even a simulator would not be a god for him, since no being is worthy of worship, and he still calls himself an atheist.

The question on the site: all the arguments
Does life have a meaning?A meaning to create

Meaning is where we find it: conscious creatures invest their world with meaning.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O
Objection

If we live in a simulation, our lives are fake and do not really matter.

Chalmers

He argues that even in a simulation the world and our lives are still real and still matter.

The question on the site: all the arguments
Are we free?Free without absolute free will

Sympathetic to compatibilism, stated in the 80,000 Hours interview.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

Our brain acts before we are aware of it, so conscious choice cannot be what makes us responsible.

Chalmers

He says consciousness need not play a direct role in every moment: some very well-practised, automatic actions, where the role of consciousness is unclear, can still carry moral responsibility.

O

If every act is the result of earlier causes, nobody is truly responsible.

No known reply from them.
The question on the site: all the arguments
Is the mind the brain?The mind is not matter

Property dualism: consciousness is a fundamental feature of the world, not a by-product of matter.

Why
What is objected, and the reply

Consciousness is an illusion: we only think we have a hard problem to explain.

Chalmers

He calls illusionism a respectable program and proposes the meta-problem (why we think we are conscious), but says consciousness is the first datum to explain.

O

Neuroscience will explain consciousness away, as science explained away other old ideas.

Chalmers

He answers that there is a core of agreed phenomena (blindsight, neural correlates) and the beginnings of a science, and that splitting consciousness into parts does not make the hard problem go away.

Defends : The hard problem of consciousness and zombies, Mary, the scientist who has never seen red

The question on the site: all the arguments
Who am I, really?My consciousness, my memory

On mind uploading, he prefers gradual uploading that preserves consciousness as the best way to keep existing.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

An uploaded copy of you would only be a copy, not you.

Chalmers

He says that, given the philosophical uncertainty, gradual uploading while staying conscious is the best way to keep existing.

The question on the site: all the arguments
Can a machine think?Thinking is computing

He has argued for computational functionalism: what matters is what a system does, not what it is made of, so silicon could be conscious. He thinks today's language models are probably not conscious, but future ones could be.

Why
What is objected, and the reply

A program only shuffles symbols without understanding, so it can never be conscious.

Chalmers

He says what matters is what a system does, not what it is made of, and gives the gradual neuron-replacement argument: swap neurons for silicon parts one by one and consciousness seems to stay.

O

Only a living being can think or feel, and a machine is not alive.

Chalmers

He rejects the view that consciousness needs carbon-based biology and sees no reason why silicon chips could not support it.

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O
Objection

Chatbots only imitate conversation, so why take the idea of AI consciousness seriously?

Chalmers

He agrees that today's language models are probably not conscious, but says no requirement for consciousness looks like an insuperable obstacle for their successors.

The question on the site: all the arguments
Is the world real?Virtual is real too

Virtual worlds are genuine realities; if we were in a simulation, things would still be real.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

A brain in a vat could not even say it is in a vat, so the sceptical worry defeats itself.

Chalmers

He says words like computer or simulation are not anchored to base reality, so Putnam's reply does not work against the simulation hypothesis.

O

Nobody would want to live in a machine that gives pleasant experiences: real life is better.

Chalmers

He says this objection does not apply to virtual reality, where you make your own choices and can live a meaningful life.

See 1 more objections
O
Objection

A simulated thing is only an illusion, not a real thing.

Chalmers

He argues that virtual objects have causal power and are not illusions, even if a virtual Obama is not the real Obama.

Defends : Even in a simulation, the world would be realMixed : The simulation argument: three possibilities, one of which is true, What if I were just a brain in a vat?

The question on the site: all the arguments

In their words

I do not think any being is worthy of worship.
Zombies are conceivable so possible and therefore materialism is false
my view, by contrast, is that simulations need not be illusions
consciousness is the basis of value it's at least part of the ground of all value
1 more quotes
Consciousness is a fundamental property of the universe

How the ideas evolved

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  1. 1995The 'hard problem' of consciousness

    His paper 'Facing Up to the Problem of Consciousness' separates the 'easy' problems (how the brain processes information) from the 'hard' one: why there is any experience at all.

  2. 1996The Conscious Mind: property dualism

    His first book argues that physical zombies are conceivable and that consciousness is a fundamental property, linked to the physical world by natural laws.

  3. 1998The Koch bet and the extended mind

    With Andy Clark he publishes 'The Extended Mind'. The same year he bets neuroscientist Christof Koch that the brain basis of consciousness will not be found within 25 years.

  4. 2011Is your phone part of your mind?

    In a TEDx talk he applies the extended mind thesis. If a phone does the job biology does, it counts as part of the mind. Denying it, he says, is brain chauvinism.

    In their words
    « If the metal does the same job the biology is doing, that would also count as part of the mind »He argues the mind can extend beyond the skull: a phone can be part of the mind, and denying it is brain chauvinism. watch
    « it doesn't matter whether it's stored somewhere deep in your brain or out there in the world »The extended mind thesis: memories stored outside the brain still count as part of the mind if they drive your states. watch
  5. 2013More open to interactionism

    Looking back at his 1996 book, he says he now explores interactionism, which he had opposed, and that he is slightly more pessimistic about panpsychism's combination problem.

  6. 2016Drawn to panpsychism

    He says the view he is attracted to is that consciousness is present at a fundamental level in all physical processes. He states the main difficulty, the combination problem: how small bits of experience add up to one unified experience. He says nobody has a solution yet.

    In their words
    « Consciousness is a fundamental property of the universe »He says consciousness is a fundamental property, like mass, and calls himself a naturalist: explanation has to stop somewhere. watch
    « I'm inclined to think that conscious agents are really the fundamental loai both of moral worth »On free will, he links moral responsibility to conscious agents: zombies would have at best a deflated kind of responsibility. watch
    « it's not obvious to me though that there needs to be a direct role of consciousness in the moment for that kind of free will »He thinks some unconscious, well-practised actions can still carry moral responsibility. watch
  7. 2018The meta-problem of consciousness

    He asks why we think there is a problem of consciousness at all. He treats illusionism as one of the best reductionist theories, though he finds it implausible.

  8. 2019Panpsychism and idealism taken seriously

    In a long 2019 interview he says he is committed to taking panpsychism seriously. A later chapter on idealism judges cosmic idealism about as promising as any version of panpsychism.

  9. 2022Reality+: virtual worlds are real

    His book argues that virtual reality is genuine reality and that we could be in a simulation without it being a lesser world. He gives a rough 10 to 20 percent credence that we are.

  10. 2023Could a language model be conscious?

    He judges it somewhat unlikely that current language models are conscious, but thinks successors could be serious candidates within about a decade. In June 2023 he wins his bet with Koch.

  11. 2025A mathematical theory of consciousness?

    He is attracted to the project of mathematising consciousness, but says no purely mathematical description of an experience can be complete, as Mary's room shows. He finds integrated information theory not especially plausible.

    In their words
    « I think there are very big obstacles to that but I'm very attracted by um the program of mathematization »He is not always in favour of physicalizing consciousness, finding big obstacles, but is attracted to a mathematical theory of consciousness. watch
    « I don't find the IIT especially plausible myself. I think the evidence for it is weak »He finds integrated information theory not especially plausible, though a good example of a mathematical theory of consciousness. watch
    « She still won't know what it's like to see red »He uses Mary's room to argue that no purely mathematical description of an experience can be complete. watch
  12. 2026The Conscious Mind at 30, and AI

    Looking back at his 1996 book, he restates the conceivability argument against materialism. He notes that if the common view is right, we have already built behavioural zombies. He thinks current language models are probably not conscious, but that no requirement for consciousness looks insuperable for future ones, and he proposes tests based on introspective reports.

    In their words
    « I very much reject that view. I don't think it's the stuff that matters. I think somehow it's what it does »He rejects the view that consciousness requires carbon-based biology: what matters is what a system does, not what it is made of. watch
    « I'm inclined to think the current language models are not conscious, but I think the case for future language models being conscious is not that easy to rebut »He thinks today's language models are probably not conscious, but takes the possibility of conscious future models very seriously. watch
    « I'm very much not a behaviorist about the mind »While using behavioural notions of quasi-belief for AI, he stresses that what happens inside, consciousness, is crucial for many purposes. watch

The arguments 7

The site's arguments they defend or criticize, and why. Click a title to see the full argument.

Defends · 6
The hard problem of consciousness and zombiesDavid Chalmers · Is the mind the brain?

His own argument: zombies are conceivable, so physical facts do not explain experience.

What if I were just a brain in a vat?Hilary Putnam · Is the world real?Mixed

Takes the simulation hypothesis as the modern form of Descartes' sceptical scenarios, but argues that being in a simulation would not make the world unreal. Answering Putnam's brain-in-a-vat argument, he says someone in a simulation who says "I'm in a simulation" would speak truly.

The cogitoRené Descartes · Can we be certain of anything?

He uses Descartes' point: I can doubt the world, but not that I am conscious right now. Consciousness is our primary datum.

Mary, the scientist who has never seen redFrank Jackson · Is the mind the brain?

He uses Mary's room to argue that no purely mathematical description of an experience can be complete: she still will not know what it is like to see red.

Criticizes · 1
The experience machine: happiness is not only pleasureRobert Nozick · What is happiness?

Answering Nozick's experience machine, he says its objections do not apply to virtual reality, where you make your own choices and can live a meaningful life.

Allies and opponents

Close, influences
Frank JacksonClose

Collaborated with Frank Jackson on two-dimensional semantics.

Nick BostromSparring partner

Takes Bostrom's simulation argument seriously, while arguing a simulated world would still be real.

Disagree
Daniel DennettDisagrees

Dennett was among the critics of his 1995 paper, and accused his property dualism of being epiphenomenalist; Chalmers rejected that.

John SearleDisagrees

Searle criticised his views in the New York Review of Books in 1997; Chalmers replied.

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  6. A 25-Year-Old Bet about Consciousness Has Finally Been Settled Scientific American · 2023
  7. Could a Large Language Model be Conscious? arXiv / Boston Review · 2023
  8. The meta-problem of consciousness Journal of Consciousness Studies (ANU research portal) · 2018
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