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Francis Collins

Led the Human Genome Project and the NIH; former atheist turned Christian, author of 'The Language of God'

ScientistWriterborn 1950 United States

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In 30 secondsCollins is an American geneticist who led the Human Genome Project. He was an atheist as a young man and became a Christian around the age of 27, helped by C. S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. He holds that science and faith are compatible. He accepts evolution as a tool God may have used. He thinks the universal sense of right and wrong points to God. He also says science can never prove or disprove God, because God would be outside nature.
Key facts

Positions

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Does God exist?God
1976
Atheism changedTheism
Stated explicitly
Position

He calls himself an evangelical Christian. Asked whether there is a God, he says: yes, he cannot prove it, but he finds the evidence 'fairly compelling'. He says there will never be a scientific proof, because science studies nature and God is outside it. He calls atheism a 'daring dogma' since science cannot judge the question, and he now sees his old agnosticism as 'a bit of a copout'.

1976 Before this he was, in his words, a fairly hostile atheist. After about a year of struggle he decided to believe, at age 27, while hiking in the Cascade Mountains. Years later he describes the same path as a spectrum he crossed bit by bit, and says that at 27 he could no longer sustain strict atheism. Article · The Question of God: Francis…

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

A good and all-powerful God would not allow so much suffering, so such a God does not exist.

Collins

He admits the arguments about evil never fill the bucket, but answers that God suffers with us, and that natural laws mean a perfect world was perhaps not his aim.

O
Objection

If everything needs a cause, then God needs one too: who created God?

Collins

He says God must be outside time and space, because otherwise the question 'who created God?' would make sense.

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O
Objection

The fine-tuning of the universe can be explained by a multiverse, with no need for a designer.

Collins

On fine-tuning, he says he prefers a mind behind it over a multiverse.

Defends : The moral law points to a lawgiver, The fine-tuning of the universe: too perfect a coincidence?, Whatever begins has a cause: the universe too, Freedom has a price: evil does not contradict God

Are we truly free?Freedom
Determinism (no free will)Free will
Interpretation
Position

He says God gave us free will, that it is real, and that genetic determinism is far from what science shows. Because God stands outside time, he says, God can give us free will and still know what will happen. On physics, he leans on quantum uncertainty and admits it is 'a bit of a dodge'.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

If the laws of physics determine everything, nothing we do is really up to us.

Collins

He points to quantum uncertainty, and admits it is 'a little bit of a dodge, but a legitimate one'.

O
Objection

If God already knows what will happen, we cannot be free.

Collins

He says God stands outside time, so he can know the outcome while our will stays free.

Do good and evil exist objectively?Status of morality
Anti-realism (morality is human-made)Moral realism (objective moral truths)
Stated explicitly
Position

Lewis's argument for a universal moral law was the one that affected him most. He says knowing right from wrong 'makes great sense as a signpost to God'. If morality were only evolution's side effect, he says, 'you have to say good and evil are basically a mirage', and we would have been fooled. He cites Oscar Schindler: saving strangers makes no sense for evolution, yet we admire it.

Why
What is objected, and the reply

Altruism is a misfiring of evolution, so our moral sense does not point to God.

Collins

He disagrees with Dawkins, saying that if morality were only a side effect of evolution, we would have been fooled about good and evil.

O

One can be moral without God.

No known reply from them.
Can reason judge everything, faith included?Faith and reason
Primacy of faith / the heartReason alone judges
Stated explicitly
Position

He says his scientific and spiritual views are not compartmentalized and are 'entirely compatible'. For him it is 'not only compatibility, it's harmony': reason is part of faith, and God is the author of both the Bible and nature (Bacon's two books). He says nobody reaches belief in God by absolute proof: one takes a leap on incomplete evidence, and doubt stays part of faith.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

It is wrong to believe on insufficient evidence, and faith is exactly that.

Collins

He says nobody reaches belief in God by absolute proof, and that reason belongs to faith as well as to science, with different standards of proof.

O

Science and religion are two separate areas that do not overlap, so one should not mix them.

Collins

He says a firewall between science and spirit makes you less whole, and that the two belong to one worldview, not two compartments.

Are humans naturally good?Human nature
Fundamentally weak or corruptFundamentally good or perfectible
Interpretation
Position

Asked about human goodness, he answers 'We're basically selfish creatures', often willing to harm others for their own benefit. This fits his Christian view of the fall and of a human need for redemption.

No sourced position yet on: Source of knowledge, Certainty, Mind and body, Meaning of life.

On the big questions

Does God exist?Theism

A Christian who also accepts evolution (theistic evolution). He says science cannot prove God, but that several pointers together make a strong atheism hard to defend: the beginning of the universe, fine-tuning, mathematics and the moral law.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

A good and all-powerful God would not allow so much suffering, so such a God does not exist.

Collins

He admits the arguments about evil never fill the bucket, but answers that God suffers with us, and that natural laws mean a perfect world was perhaps not his aim.

O
Objection

If everything needs a cause, then God needs one too: who created God?

Collins

He says God must be outside time and space, because otherwise the question 'who created God?' would make sense.

See 1 more objections
O
Objection

The fine-tuning of the universe can be explained by a multiverse, with no need for a designer.

Collins

On fine-tuning, he says he prefers a mind behind it over a multiverse.

Defends : The moral law points to a lawgiver, The fine-tuning of the universe: too perfect a coincidence?, Whatever begins has a cause: the universe too, Freedom has a price: evil does not contradict God

The question on the site: all the arguments
Are we free?Free will

Free will is real, and it explains much of the suffering humans cause.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

If the laws of physics determine everything, nothing we do is really up to us.

Collins

He points to quantum uncertainty, and admits it is 'a little bit of a dodge, but a legitimate one'.

O
Objection

If God already knows what will happen, we cannot be free.

Collins

He says God stands outside time, so he can know the outcome while our will stays free.

The question on the site: all the arguments
What makes something right?God's will

For him the universal sense of right and wrong is a signpost to a holy God. If it came only from evolution, good and evil would be an illusion.

Why
What is objected, and the reply

Altruism is a misfiring of evolution, so our moral sense does not point to God.

Collins

He disagrees with Dawkins, saying that if morality were only a side effect of evolution, we would have been fooled about good and evil.

O

One can be moral without God.

No known reply from them.
The question on the site: all the arguments
Should we believe without proof?Faith and reason agree

Faith and science are two ways of knowing that fit together; he sees no need for a conflict.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

It is wrong to believe on insufficient evidence, and faith is exactly that.

Collins

He says nobody reaches belief in God by absolute proof, and that reason belongs to faith as well as to science, with different standards of proof.

O

Science and religion are two separate areas that do not overlap, so one should not mix them.

Collins

He says a firewall between science and spirit makes you less whole, and that the two belong to one worldview, not two compartments.

The question on the site: all the arguments
Why is there something rather than nothing?There is a reason

He says science cannot answer why there is something instead of nothing, and that the cause cannot itself be part of nature, or nothing is solved. Such a creator would be outside space and time.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

The universe may simply be there, with no reason at all: there is no necessary being.

No known reply from them.
O

A universe can arise from nothing, since the quantum vacuum is not stable; no creator is needed.

No known reply from them.
The question on the site: all the arguments
Can science explain everything?True, but not everything

Science is the way to study the natural world, but it cannot settle whether God exists.

Why
What is objected, and the reply
O

Science can explain everything that is worth explaining, including why we are here.

Collins

He says science cannot answer questions like 'why are we here?' or 'is there a God?'.

O

The order of living things shows design, so God must have intervened in nature.

Collins

He rejects intelligent design as a 'god of the gaps': God is greater if he does not have to step in, and evolution was his way of creating.

The question on the site: all the arguments

In their words

There will never be a scientific proof of God's existence.
As if it knew we were coming.
I can find God in a cathedral but I can find God in the laboratory
God is greater if he doesn't have to step in than if he does
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then you have to say good and evil are basically a mirage

How the ideas evolved

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  1. 1977 Change of mindFrom hostile atheist to believer

    As a medical student he saw patients lean on their faith, and realised he had rejected faith without knowing what it was. A minister gave him Lewis's Mere Christianity. After about a year he decided to believe, at 27 (late 1970s), on a hike in the Cascade Mountains.

  2. 1993Heads the Human Genome Project

    He leads the National Human Genome Research Institute and the Human Genome Project until 2008.

  3. 2006The Language of God

    He publishes his book on science and faith. In the same year he tells Salon that evolution is solid science and that intelligent design is 'already showing serious cracks'.

  4. 2007Founds BioLogos

    He founds the BioLogos Foundation, which promotes the view that science and Christian faith are compatible, with evolution accepted.

  5. 2008Berkeley: theistic evolution in one paragraph

    At the Veritas Forum he states his view: God, outside time, set the universe's parameters so that evolution could build life, then gave humans free will and a moral law. He calls intelligent design a 'god of the gaps' theory and says 'God is greater if he doesn't have to step in than if he does'.

    In their words
    « atheism as Chesterton says is the most daring of all dogmas the assertion of a universal negative »He calls atheism a daring dogma, because science stays silent on whether God exists. watch
    « I don't recognize the faith that Richard Dawkins talks about »He says Dawkins attacks a faith that no mature believer would recognize. watch
    « God's plan included the mechanism of evolution that was his creative genius to create the marvelous diversity of living things on our planet »His one-paragraph summary of theistic evolution: evolution was God's way of creating. watch
  6. 2009Director of the NIH

    He becomes director of the US National Institutes of Health and holds the post until December 2021.

  7. 2009Caltech: 'Is there a God? Yes, I can't prove it'

    At Caltech he answers yes to the God question, says the evidence is 'fairly compelling' but not proof, that doubt is part of faith, and that his own old agnosticism was 'a bit of a copout'.

    In their words
    « if you want to be an atheist you cannot claim that reason completely supports your position »Science cannot rule God out, so atheism cannot claim to be fully backed by reason. watch
    « is there a God my answer to that is yes I can't prove it but I think the evidence is fairly compelling »His answer to 'is there a God': yes, without proof but with fairly compelling evidence. watch
    « it doesn't solve the problem of the Creator »Asked why not pantheism, he says it does not answer the need for a Creator. watch
  8. 2020Templeton Prize

    He receives the Templeton Prize.

  9. 2024Dialogue with Alex O'Connor

    In a long conversation with the agnostic YouTuber Alex O'Connor he defends fine-tuning ('I don't think God chose to spend the energy of creation on something boring') and the resurrection: not an absolute proof, but the likeliest explanation.

    In their words
    « I think it's really much more of a spectrum and I think I've traveled across that Spectrum during my whole life »Faith and non-belief are a spectrum, and he has moved along it all his life. watch
    « for me at 27 having walked down this Trail bit by bit realizing that my arguments of strict atheism really couldn't be sustained »At 27, he saw his arguments for strict atheism could not be sustained. watch
    « I don't think God chose to spend the energy of creation on something boring »On fine-tuning: God wanted an interesting universe with complexity and life. watch
  10. 202649 years of faith and science

    At Oxford with N. T. Wright, and at BYU, he says that in the 49 years since his conversion at 27 he has found no conflict between his science and his faith. He lists his pointers to God: something instead of nothing, the effectiveness of mathematics, the Big Bang, fine-tuning, the moral law.

    In their words
    « I fell on my knees and I gave my life to Jesus Christ »He recalls his decision at 27 on a hike in the Cascade Mountains. watch
    « there's something instead of nothing Science doesn't help you answer that question »Pointer to God: why there is something instead of nothing. watch
    « why is it that mathematics works to describe the behavior of matter and energy there's no reason that should be »Pointer to God: the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics. watch

The arguments 4

The site's arguments they defend or criticize, and why. Click a title to see the full argument.

Defends · 4
The moral law points to a lawgiverC. S. Lewis · Does God exist?

Lewis's case for a universal moral law was the argument that most affected him. He still holds it: evolution does not fully explain altruism, 'a scandal to evolutionary biology'. He calls radical altruism (Schindler, Mother Teresa) the strongest sign that evolution alone does not explain us, 'not a proof' but a pointer. He rejects Dawkins's answer that it is a misfiring of altruism.

The fine-tuning of the universe: too perfect a coincidence?Robin Collins · Does God exist?

He points to the universe's physical constants, which make it look 'as if it knew we were coming': 'the knife edge of improbability'. He prefers a mind behind it to a multiverse, but warns that no single argument from nature proves God. (Our argument page is by the philosopher Robin Collins, not by Francis Collins.)

Whatever begins has a cause: the universe tooWilliam Lane Craig · Does God exist?

In the Salon interview he cites the beginning of the universe (the Big Bang) as one of the things that point to a creator. He adds that the cause must be outside space and time.

Freedom has a price: evil does not contradict GodAlvin Plantinga · Does God exist?

On evil he gives the free will defense: 'God gave us free will, and we may choose to exercise it in ways that end up hurting other people.' Suffering with no human cause he calls the harder question. For natural evil he adds that God chose stable natural laws, and that 'when a child suffers, God is weeping too'.

Criticizes · 0

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Allies and opponents

Close, influences
C. S. LewisInfluence

Reading Mere Christianity helped him move from atheism to faith.

Christopher HitchensSparring partner

Hitchens called Collins one of the greatest living Americans and described their friendship, despite their religious differences, as an 'armed truce'.

Disagree
Richard DawkinsDisagrees

He disagrees with Dawkins's view that evolution leads to atheism. He quotes Chesterton that atheism is 'the most daring of all dogmas', a universal negative, and says it takes someone 'awfully bold' to claim he can exclude the possibility of God.

Signature ideas

Theistic evolution (BioLogos)

Evolution is how God created life. He rejects both Young Earth creationism and intelligent design, and calls the polarised debate unnecessary.

Pointers, not proofs

He builds a cumulative case: something instead of nothing, the effectiveness of mathematics, the Big Bang, fine-tuning, the moral law, then Jesus. No single pointer is enough and none is a proof. At the end one takes a leap, and he says God did not intend to give mathematical proof.

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